# conda-forge core meeting 2022-12-14

Add new agenda items under the `Your __new__() agenda items` heading

[last weeks meeting](https://hackmd.io/jEpu4WolRv294NzZ3AJdOw)
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## Attendees

| Name                    | Initials | GitHub ID        | Affiliation                 |
| ----------------------- | -------- | ---------------  | --------------------------- |
| Dave Clements           | DPC      | tnabtaf          | Anaconda                    |
| Marcel Bargull          | MB       | mbargull         | Bioconda/cf                 |
| Cheng H. Lee            | CHL      | chenghlee        | Anaconda/cf                 |
| Matthew Becker          | MRB      |  beckermr        | cf                          |
| Marius van Niekerk      | MvN      | mariusvniekerk   | cf                          |
| John Kirkham            | JK       | jakirkham        | NVIDIA/cf                   |
| Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra  | JRG      | jaimergp         | Quansight/cf                |
|                         |          |                  |                             |
|                         |          |                  |                             |

10 people total


### Standing items

* [ ] intros for new folks on the call

* [ ] open votes

### From previous meeting(s)

* [ ] (JL) Upcoming conda 22.11.0, conda-libmamba-solver releases
    * [ ] https://github.com/conda/conda/releases/tag/22.11.0
        * [ ] NEW! Download and extract packages in parallel
        * [ ] NEW! plugins (launching with solver, subcommands and virtual packages plugin hooks)
            * [ ] E.g. cuda virtual package: https://github.com/conda/conda/blob/main/conda/plugins/virtual_packages/cuda.py
        * [ ] Switched to ruamel.yaml (look ma, no underscore!)
    * [ ] https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-feedstock/pull/181

### Active votes

### Your __new__() agenda items

* [x] (JRG) Support for abi3 Python packages with abi3audit checks?
    * https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/11/15/python-wheels-abi-abi3audit/
    * [X] Sounds feasible with some work, Jaime to post issue on website repo for follow-ups

* [x] (MRB) cleaning up bots and secrets
    * [x] moving all bot tokens, passwords, etc. out of keybase to 1password
    * [x] going to start removing unused bots
    * [x] will give core team notice just in case before removing specific accounts
* [x] (HV) openssl 3 timeline
    * [x] open PRs/feedstocks listed in https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge-pinning-feedstock/issues/3838
    * [x] can we identify blockers (if any) for dropping 1.1.1?
    * [x] if dropping 1.1.1, how to handle problematic cases (i.e. ruby <3.0)
    * [ ] todo:
        * [ ] john to post note on issue that we will discuss again in january 11
* [x] (HV) cross-compiling CUDA
    * [ ] new effort in staged-recipes is adding 11.8, but we would need 11.2 (quoth Isuru)
    * [ ] is there an alternative to https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge-ci-setup-feedstock/pull/210 ?
    * [ ] if not, can we finalize that PR?
    * [ ] would help a lot on CUDA+aarch jobs for feedstocks that can cross-compile
        * e.g. arrow now has 16 jobs x 2 abi branches that run into 6h timeout about 50% of the time (c.f. x-compilation: ~1h)
        * arrow-cpp-feedstock/main dropped CUDA+aarch, pending https://github.com/conda-forge/arrow-cpp-feedstock/pull/899)
        * Planning to move forward with conda-forge-ci-setup PR
        * Needs some permission fixes to Docker images
        * In the future, new CUDA packages + cuda-compat could solve this, but not right away
* [x] (JK) staged-recipes
    * [ ] Might be more wonky than it was before, might not.
    * [ ] Trouble with Travis (the software)
    * [ ] todo
        * [ ] automate deletion of empty feedstocks
        * [ ] randomly sort them
        * [x] only do 5 at a time
* [x] (DPC) Reminder: [conda-forge google group](https://groups.google.com/g/conda-forge?pli=1) is [being archived at the end of the year](https://groups.google.com/g/conda-forge/c/nm3IaBe91GA).
    * [ ] Shutdown message will point people at conda Discourse site. ~~Also want to mention announce@conda.org mailing list.~~  Any objections?   Point people to announcements page in doc.
    * [ ] Who wants to handle the shutdown for conda-forge? ~~Or can DPC be made a list owner?~~
        * [ ] Matt will do this.
    * [ ] https://conda-forge.org/docs/user/announcements.html
* [x] (JRG) gpu stuff
    * starting to work
    * Matt: don't break main on testing feedstock but otherwise go to town


### Pushed to next meeting

### CFEPs

* [cfep-12](https://github.com/conda-forge/cfep/pull/23) Removing packages that violate the terms of the source package
    * Stalled since May 26, 2020
    * Active debate about moving to "broken" vs deleting from conda-forge channel
    * Active vote, ends on 2020-03-11
    * What were the results of the vote?
    * Did we hear back from NumFOCUS? they did the legal seminar which is recorded